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Executive
Board Meeting OHSAA Office Wednesday, November 2, 2011 Attendance: John Dickerson, OHSAA; Joe Matheny, President; Kevin Smith, Vice-President; Casey Milligan, Treasurer; Gerald Sargent, Rules; Ken Youngman, Past President; Ken Campanizzi, Past President; Richard Scaife, Past President; Steve Youmans, Clinic Organizer; Dom Williams, SW Rep; Jonathan Laube, NE Rep; Natalie Schie, East Rep; Rob Griffith, SE Rep; Mike Gardner, NW Rep; Russ Edgington, Central Rep; Diane McCall, NE Girls Rep; Alice James, NW Girls Rep; Lora Wagner, E/C/SE Girls Rep; Steve Evans, Appointee. Treasurer’s
Report: Casey Milligan Reminder that the dues and clinic fees were increased $5 at last years meeting and this will take effect this year (2012). Dues: $25 Clinic: $50 We added 46 members at the State Tournament and 75-100 in the past month. DM – Do we mail the clinic form to all the coaches or to the schools CM – IT is mailed to every school through the OHSAA in late February, early March AJ – If a registration is late, can they still come to the clinic but not eat at the golf course? CM – Yes. DW – What is the best way to determine if a coach is a member? CM – There is a link on our coaches website, www.ohsgca.org State
Tournament Review: John Dickerson Thanks to Ken Youngman for running the Boys DII State Tournament at Northstar Golf Course. Thanks to all workers at all the tournaments. There were no major controversies. All went smooth. The Superintendent at OSU did a great job preparing the golf course during extremely wet conditions during the DI Boys and Girls Tournament. Slow play is still a concern as it took 5 ½ to 6 hours to play each weekend. If problems exist with sites for Sectional and District Tournaments, that is a District Concern not an OHSAA concern. The new tournament cart rule went well. The language is now ADA compliant. There is a small rules book that was presented to us called The Rules Caddie. Information can be received by calling 309-829-5225 or www.therulescaddie.com DW – What is our role as district reps with our local board. We give recommendations but they still do what they want. JD – There are guidelines set by the OHSAA that should be followed but it is their choice on running Sectional and District Tournaments. Keep reminding them of these guidelines. AJ – Her board wanted to know who made the rule for no carts during tournament play the OHSGCA or the OHSAA. JD – That is an OHSAA tournament regulation. CM – A packet is sent to the Sectional and District Tournament managers regarding these regulations. Is it possible to send one to the District Boards? JD – Every District Board receives a copy. NS – Does the rule say no carts for coaches? JD – Yes MG – In our tournament some teams had players start on different nines. CM – They are not supposed to, they are to be in order. AJ – At our Girl’s District Tournament the local pro made the decision of allowing coaches to use carts. JD – I will address this with the District reps on the Board of Directors. GS – Reminder that in a dual match, the home coach is responsible to see that all USGA and OHSAA rules are enforced. AJ – What if the home coach is the violator? GS – Let him know it and if there is a problem call me or John Dickerson. JD – If he is a repeat violator let the principal and Athletic Director of that school know. DM – As coaches, we are required to have PAV, Coaching, and CPR certification in order to coach. Is it fair that at the State Tournament, the coaching badge can be given to a swing coach who may not have these certifications? JD – That is a valid point. We will address that situation. SE – Are we going to take away the option to designate a coach? JD – Not if the person is approve by the school board and has all the certification. SE – If a school has only one Boys and Girls coach and they are both competing at the State Tournament, the coach is on site so can another person be designated to coach also. JD – That person still needs to be certified and Board approved. JM – I am going to ask the tournament manager for the State Tournament to re-evaluate hole assignments. I would like them to be based on location of holes instead of being sequential. This way, a rules official would be more visible. Also, should we look into the use of golfstat at the State Tournament. CM – Hole by hole scores could be projected on the TV’s at OSU, could be accessed by smart phones, web. Do we want people on course using phones to access this info? Will this decrease attendance? It will cost $800 to $1000. Who will absorb the cost? I think we need more information before making a decision. KY – The scores are posted on the OHSAA website by late afternoon now. NS – It would be nice for the players. KY – Yes, but is will it be worth it? JM – Should we pursue it? Group – NO. JD – Rules meetings will be online starting next year. We will still have some live meetings. JL – Will this lower our membership if a coach does not have to attend a rules meeting? JD – Casey is working with Dr. Ross on this matter? CM – We may change the rules interpretation to be every year to be consistent with the other sports. RG – What happens if a new coach starts in an off year for the rules interpretation? CM – This is one of the reasons we are talking about changing it to each year. President’s
Comments: Joe Matheny I would like to thank Ken Youngman, Casey Milligan, John Dickerson for all the work they do before the State Tournament. This helps the tournament run very smoothly. I would also like to thank Steve Youmans for all the work he does for our coach’s clinic. They represent our association in a professional and positive manner. Alice James (Girl’s) and Chuck Helber (Boy’s) have been nominated for our region for National Coach of the Year. I have received several emails regarding changing the start of the season for next year. Clinic Information: Steve YoumansMatt Lefferts should be able to be here for the rules interpretation. KY – If he can’t, Bill McCarthey from the USGA would be a good choice. RS – Can we expand the time used for the rules interpretation? JM – Since we will have a rules interpretation every year, we are looking into this. CM – I have had requests in the past for a W9 form for the clinic. This form will be included in the mailing for the clinic and I will try to put it on the website also. Hall
of Fame and Sportsmanship Awards: Kevin
Smith Chris Cores from Pickington Central will be the new chairman of this committee. Girl’s Sportsmanship and Integrity Award is from the Central District this year. Boy’s Sportsmanship and Integrity Award is from the Southwest District. Distinguished Service is from the Central District. These awards and any nominations for the hall of fame need to be sent by March 1. Nominations for the George Valentine Award, need to be sent to Joe Matheny before December 31. Old Business1. Constitution
Committee Report: Richard Scaife Past President Richard Scaife presented changes to article 10 of the constitution pertaining to officer vacancies. A motion was made by Jonathan Laube to vote on the amendment as presented at the spring business meeting as stipulated in our constitution. Second by Dom Williams. Motion passed unanimously. 2.
Rules Committee Report: Dom Williams Joe Matheny sent out an email asking the district reps to see how their district felt about the Kentucky coaching rule which is basically to be able to coach from tee to green. The unofficial results are as follows: In favor Not in favor Central 23 20 East 18 28 Southeast All but 2 were in favor Southwest overwhelming, almost unanimous Northeast 84 18 Northwest 60 38 Dominic stated that a number of states have changed to this rule or one similar to it. There are concerns about the pace of play. CM – We could ask the OHSAA to survey each school to have better results. NS – A form could be submitted electronically. DW – Could the district reps get the votes? KY – Put a survey in with the clinic information. LW – We could put information on the website to remind the coaches to vote on this. JM – The district reps need to do all they can to tell their respective coaches how important it is to respond to this survey. JL – Could we send a self-addressed stamped postcard for the response in order to have a larger number respond? CM – We need to have the coach’s sign off so we know that the head coach voted. JM- Are we talking about coaching anywhere, anytime except in a hazard until the players ball comes to rest on the correct green. KY – We need to make the time coaching must cease as precise as possible. DW – Prohibit the coaches from the greens and bunkers. JM – Are there any other areas on the golf course other than bunkers or greens that a coach should not be? Group – NO JM – Remember the 45 second will always be in effect. Mike Gardner made a motion to send a questionnaire with the spring clinic form on a self-addressed, stamped return card stating the following change in the coaching rule. Vote by yes in favor of change or no not in favor of change. “The new regulation permits the head coach to speak with their players without delay of play at any time. During the players stipulated round, coaches are not permitted on any green or in any sand bunker.” Second by Casey Milligan Motion passed 16-0 with Casey Milligan abstaining. Joe Matheny also asked for the Executive Committee to formulate ideas on how we could add a stipend for the positions of Treasurer, Clinic Organizer, and President for the next meeting in the spring of 2012. There is a great deal of work and travel involved in each of these positions. New BusinessKY – Should we have DIII Boy’s play Northstar GC every year for continuity and easier for record keeping. Group – NO KY – Submitted documentation showing that the pace of play gets slower as teams advance in the tournament. He compared Sectional and District sites in the Northeast and the Boy’s DII state tournament at Northstar GC. CM – We need to define a penalty assessment for the violation of the ruled of coaching for the people who blatantly violate it. SE – Is this an OHSAA issue or an OHSGCA issue? CM – We need to show support to the OHSAA on this issue. DW – If a coach violates the rule that is an insult. We as coach’s should be about doing everything correctly. CM – I make a motion to have the President, Joe Matheny, write a letter to Dr. Ross strongly recommending that an intentional violation of golf regulations may result in a suspension and/or fine from the OHSAA as determined by the Executive or Director of Golf. Second by Ken Campanizzi Motion passed unanimously District Concerns
Central - Russ
Edgington None
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Lora
Wagner Coaches would like to use carts and range finders. The clinic was better this past year. Could we put the email list on the coach’s website? Group – No Why are interrupted play rules different in season than in tournament play? KS – During the season, the golf course will have changed the next day if you cancel the round. In tournament, it stays set up the same.
Northwest - Mike
Gardner 63% of the coaches in our district want to change the start of coaching for the 2012 season to July 30. 93% of our coaches want the use of carts for tournaments. They would also like to know who decided that we can’t. JM – This is an OHSAA tournament regulation.
- Alice
James Is there a pre score to determine if a school can enter the sectional tournament. JM – No We had a player in a tournament keep their putts in the same box as the score for each hole. When they finished those counted as part of the number. EX. 5- score 2- putts. The player received a 52 for their score. Please remind players to only put their score in the box.
East - Natalie
Schie None Southeast - Rob GriffithNone Southwest - Dom WilliamsOur coach’s would like to see more participation at the State Tournament, have 6 players instead of 5. They would also like to be able to use range finders. Northeast - Jonathan LaubeOur coach’s would like the start of golf to coincide with the start of football for the 2012 season, which is July 30. JM – This board asked me to propose the current start date in 2010. In one year are they asking for it to be changed already. DW – School calendars have changed since then and school is starting earlier. This shortens the number of matches that can be scheduled before school starts. JL – Most courses would rather have our teams playing early in the day, so as not to affect league play. CM – If you include the days before school starts and Saturday’s, there are 15 days that matches can be scheduled and not interfere with school. Jonathan Laube made a motion that President Joe Matheny make a proposal to the OHSAA to move the starting date of golf to the same starting as football. Second by Dom Williams Motion failed 7-5 against. Motion to Adjourn at 3:20 p.m. by Jonathan Laube, second by Dom Williams Motion passed Unanimously
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